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Gorgeous Site, False Information

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Your site is gorgeous, but your training information is wildly inaccurate and will hurt a lot of people if they attempt it.

Required safety precautions have been completely removed, and new elements have been added that are simply not a part of this practice.

please elaborate and i can make the information more accurate.

The original teachings gave explicit warnings: if you do X, harm follows. If you do Y, harm follows. If you do Z, harm follows. None of those crucial cautions are present here, and they must be. Furthermore, this practice contains additions that John never taught. My sect follows the original VHS teachings he left us, making it glaringly obvious when foreign concepts are introduced. If you attempt to bake a cake without sugar and flour, but instead add ghost chili peppers and prunes, the result is no longer a cake. This practice has been distorted in the exact same way.

Are the VHS teachings available somewhere so I can gather the information?

Not to the general public no.

Is there any other way to get the information on safety? As I have read the manuals and the only real safety precautions in the training manuals states the 72 hour rule. The archive is a collection of what I can get publicly.

There are several other important things besides that.

Also these instructions omit requirements from the training itself.

I would appreciate it if you would take the time to make a list of things that are incorrect and their corrections and then I can adjust the information on the site.

  1. Do not try to move chi from your lungs down to your LDT. This will lead to health problems.
  2. Do not try to force your breathing to be slower. It will slow down naturally, so you do not need to force anything.
  3. Do not practice unless you are grounded, as this leads to health problems. (no electrical outlets allowed)
  4. Do not practice during thunderstorms.
  5. Do not combine this with other practices, especially the microcosmic orbit. This leads to serious mental and physical health problems.
  6. Please follow the 72-hour rule as you mentioned.

There are many more warnings than this. Crucial aspects are missing from the practice on your site, and new things have been added that John never taught.

Please do not advocate for people to practice this, as it is certain they will injure themselves.

Your information also fails to account for how to deal with spirits that WILL create problems as you develop.

Thanks I will be updating the safety information with the given information.

Can you make a list of things John taught vs things that are in the practice section that are different? As the practice section is based on the later written book by James van Gelder, and publicly available documents like this one https://archive.org/details/the-mo-pai-training-manual-berserker-books/page/4/mode/2up.

All of these Mo Pai instruction manuals are fake. James Van Gelder and other others were never students. Jim McMillan, Kosta Danaos AKA Kostas Dervenis are the only two students that have written books that I am aware of. You get made up gibberish that bears no resemblance to the actual practice when you read these authors like Van Gelder, McDuffie, Shifu Lin, etc.

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